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"traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn" (el-peasant) 08/01/2018 at 18:14 • Filed to: None

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I know that genetics determine a dude’s hip width and collarbone length from the start... but can lifestyle choices during puberty (read: high body fat and low exercise) cause a hormonal imbalance (low-Test and high Estrogen) that would cause narrower shoulders and wider hips than what was originally planned?

Now at 19 theres probably nothing I can do about my rather pear-shaped bone structure, but I want to know if it didn’t have to be this way.

Honeybunchesofgoats > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 18:25

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Get swole. That’s a shitty answer, but trust me, I’m drunk.  When I was a teen, I had an eating disorder before boys could have one. Do enough upper body exercise and it’ll work itself out. Or don’t. It honestly doesn’t matter as much as it seems when you’re 19. 

WRXforScience > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 18:27

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The answer is: definitely maybe.

There are : genetics, epigenetics, and environmental/behavioral conditions that all play a role in human growth and development.

It is probably too late for you, but future generations might not be doomed.

Nibby > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 18:30

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we are all human

some choose to accept their reality

Honeybunchesofgoats > WRXforScience 08/01/2018 at 18:40

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This seems like a depressing statement, but I’m 5’8” and the average size of the people I’ve dated is around 6’. The number of giants I’ve met who were like “yeah, that’s okay” so far outweighs the number of people who are people-sized.

Die-Trying > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 18:42

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that might be the shape of the structure, but exercise, and muscle build up, will help to move/broaden the shoulders and chest...... if/when you start working on your shoulders and upper back, neck, the flys, the shape will definitely square up with muscle bulk.....

also posture........

Chuckles > Honeybunchesofgoats 08/01/2018 at 18:52

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“It honestly doesn't matter as much as it seems when you're 19" could be applied to practically everything. 

wafflesnfalafel > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 18:52

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negligible - but you absolutely can blame your parents instead for giving you genes.

I figure most folks are saddled with some not so great genes. I’m a pudge, no shoulders, back is worthless (blown discs , etc), right knee has been f’d since I was born, but I got some height from my mother’s father, there isn’t a bunch of cancer/heart disease in the family and I inherited my great grandfather’s hair that ain’t never gonna fall out. I work on what I can make better and try not to worry about what I can’t..

Chuckles > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 18:54

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There is nothing to be gained from spending any amount of time worrying about your bone structure. It really doesn't matter.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Honeybunchesofgoats 08/01/2018 at 19:01

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Are you male or female?

Surprisingly, tall women have a hard time dating much like fat women...

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 19:19

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It’s hard to say how permanent it is, but a lot of factors are involved. I’d look more at food than anything. Hormones and plastics screw your system up royally.

AM3R, lost another burner > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 19:24

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Hit the gym. I got pretty dedicated to weightlifting when I was 19 and it changed my body tremendously. 

Honeybunchesofgoats > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 08/01/2018 at 19:35

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Male. I’ve had some weird height disparities, though. 

traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn > Die-Trying 08/01/2018 at 19:43

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I am in the process. Interestingly enough, my muscle building journey has made me notice lots of little details and aspects about my body that I didnt even care about before I started! 

Die-Trying > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 20:13

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dont forget to work on your posture. keep them shoulders nice and square, dont hunch. you get that posture right, and you can get a lot of your shape back......

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 20:44

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I think getting serious about diet and exercise would be a transformation. Drop 15- 20 lbs and add muscle to the upper body. It’s hard work but can also become a Lifestyle change for the better.

TheRealBicycleBuck > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 21:59

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More like the opposite. Estrogen is a major factor in bone growth in both boys and girls.

“ We concluded that the pubertal growth spurt of both sexes is driven primarily by estrogen, and that the more rapid epiphyseal maturation of prepubertal girls (vs boys) may be explained by their higher estradiol levels.”

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“ The skeletal response to estrogen therapy was studied in a 17-yr-old boy with congenital aromatase deficiency. As expected, estrogen therapy (1 mg estradiol valeriate/d from age 17 until 20 yr) normalized total and free testosterone and reduced the rate of bone remodeling.... These findings demonstrate that androgens alone are insufficient, whereas estrogens are essential for the process of pubertal periosteal bone expansion typically associated with the male bone phenotype.”  

If there was some hormonal imbalance that caused you to have excess estrogen, especially before you hit puberty, your bones would have responded with excessive growth and you would be rather tall.

I spent a couple of years running a research lab after college. Our primary research was on bone growth. Your body shape is a function of genetics. Take a look around your family and see who has your shape. Then give them a big hug.

Greasyplease > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/01/2018 at 23:16

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I'm not entire sure about the anatomical effects but there's a whole field that studies the interaction between life experiences and genetics, it's called epigenetics. It mostly modifies the expression of the DNA you already have. I know fat composition and diet have big effects in what I study but I don't know anything about bones. Unfortunately if you're done growing your bones are most likely staying that way for the next 30-40 years, sorry :/

I have another burner, try to guess it! > traderQAMobileTestAutomationMobileBoostOn 08/02/2018 at 02:32

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N othing you can do about bone size and shape, but you can work on your muscle, fat, and posture.

I know the channel seems kind of goofy, but the guy knows what he’s talking about. As for posture, he also has some videos about it as well as another channel called “upright health” (Also made by a physical therapist, rather than just some personal trainer) who does excellent videos on posture.

I don’t really go to the gym any more, but stretches and excersises for posture is still something I make a point to do. It really does make much more of a difference visually than muscle/fat loss.